Article of the Japanese Constitution Prohibits Japan From Ever Going to War Again
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commanteer
Depending on the United states the way Japan does is like a pocket-sized shop owner paying a local thug to protect the shop. And that local thug regularly goes around picking fights with all the rival thugs, telling them all "My local shop possessor stands by me! You tin can notice me there!"
The U.s.a. extracts a heavy price for its protection dissonance.
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Mark
The U.S. near went Nuke when Russia deployed long range possibly nuclear missiles in Republic of cuba, and so why is it okay for NATO to edge ever closer and closer to Moscow with 10's of thousands of troops, war machines, and Nuclear missile?? Russia is extremely nervous about Ukraine joining NATO and having U.S. troops side by side door and will stop it at any cost by the look of it.
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Meiyouwenti
The Soviet Spousal relationship agreed to the German reunification on condition that NATO might aggrandize eastward merely stop brusk of Ukraine, which was traditionally part of Russian sphere of influence. The Due west has no right to be there.
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Peter Neil
Uh, Nippon went to war because of economic sanctions fourscore years ago.
Sanctions and embargoes are acts of war.
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Desert Tortoise
The Syrian regime emphatically did not request the presence of The states forces in Syrian arab republic. They came there to fight Daesh and to aid their YPG allies. There is no official number of United states of america forces in Syria but it is oftentimes thought to be around 900 non counting air power coming from UAE and from Usa ships at bounding main. The Usa currently is authorized 2500 troops in Iraq.
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roninroshi
Nippon needs not be dragged into this debacle…Japans need to maintain independence in issues Biden gets involved in is vital.
Although I can see Biden's Country Department putting pressure on to get their mode! Stand strong Nippon!
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Alex
You might desire to check your facts
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Gabor Fabricius
Japan should not go involved at all. NATO, North Atlantic Treaty Organisation should not be present on the borders of Russia. Finland and Sweden are not NATO members. Additionally Ukraine is historically, a part of Russia. Japan must Not sanction.
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zichi
During the American-led invasion of Iraq, there were more than than 300,000 troops involved.
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Septim Dynasty
Japan should stay out of this mess that NATO created.
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RichardPearce
Then, is the United states suggesting it be sanctioned for invading Syrian arab republic and Iraq?
The Israeli authorities sanctioned for invading Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Palestine?
For not withdrawing troops from Russia's border (Alaska)?
And what, exactly, is its program to ensure Nippon's gas supply in the example of the ultraextremists its regime in Ukraine force the shutdown of the transUkrainian pipeline and the Us diverts all LNG shipping to supply Europe?
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Hullo Kitty 321
If Washington recognizes the rule of police what are they doing in Iraq and Syrian arab republic?
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marcelito
How nearly NATO buggers off and cease pushing ever closer to Russia,s edge, then at that place will not be a crisis. How did the Usa react during the Cuban incident ?
The US has less than 1000 troops in Iraq and Syrian arab republic each at the asking of the respective governments."
Nice misinformation. Simply when exactly did Assad request the Usa troop presence?
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William77
The U.s.a. still think to be that super ability from the 70es and 80es which isn't anymore.
I wonder what if Russian federation would have asked to install missiles in Canada and Mexico,would the Usa government accept that?
Furthermore many NATO countries,Germany first is reluctant to a conflict against Russia.
We don't need a country playing the world police,for this reason we have the United Nations.
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Cricky
Japan will have enquire the Miramar Junta starting time, then fashion upwardly its Russian investments, cheque if that would effect its Chinese business plan, it would be throwing Taiwan under the omnibus if it did nothing nigh the Ukrainian situation. But business kickoff. I suggest a panel to be formed to weigh upward the pros and cons of supporting a democracy under threat by a totalitarian state with little fiscal gain Vs monetary proceeds and a nod to a totalitarian aggressive neighbour. I wonder what Japan Inc will tell the government what to practise?
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Blacklabel
Why is Biden trying to drag Japan into all of his nonsense all all of a sudden?
once the new Administrator came (after almost two years of being vacant) did he realize Nippon actually exists or something?
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zichi
British and French nuclear missiles have always been close.
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indigo
Japan the United states puppet, we all know.
US strategy to sell oil and gas to other countries
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Kyo wa heiwa dayo ne
Best for Japan to stay away from the Ukraine issue and not imposing sanctions on Russia.
Putin supports Communist china's claims to Taiwan .
Biden is starting a war he can't win.
USA should focus on getting their act together at dwelling and not go along pretending to exist the earth leader.
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TokyoLiving
Why does the United states have to drag everyone it can into its pathetic interventionist rhetoric??..
The farthest you can exist from the U.s., the best for any state..
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smithinjapan
They won't. Japan is always in a "difficult position" that the balance of the world seems not to be in. And so, they'll say something like, "We stand up with the U.s. and other nations in condemning Russian federation's attack on Ukraine, and we support the sanctions, but we ask Russia not to be upset with Japan, and will non add whatever sanctions ourselves."
They're Nevertheless working with the Junta in Myanmar afterward saying they are against what they did, asked to be exempted from sanctions confronting countries importing oil and what not from Islamic republic of iran, want an cease to nuclear weapons simply won't sign a ban against them, and heck, even with the Olympics they "are against CHina'southward human being rights abuses, but will yet send a full athletic delegate because Japan is in a tough position".
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Peter14
Funny that Ukrainians themselves do non agree with that statement.
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BeerDeliveryGuy
I sure hope they don't intend on using that paw-on-shoulder stack formation exterior of urban environments.
In an open environment, Information technology's a good mode to get your entire squad shwacked by a few machine-gun bursts.
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Peter Neil
According to me.
If someone on the other side of town was able to deny you use of your banking concern account or whatever fiscal transactions, continue you lot from going to work or earn income, keep you from buying food, etc., you'd consider it an act of war.
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Thou. Jamil
At that place's no Russian invasion, there never was one except it be in the heads of those warmongers, installed in Washington & London to ignite wars all around the earth.
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itsonlyrocknroll
All-time do, play a waiting game.
Let the Russian Government make the first movement Smart of the J Authorities non to jump in with both anxiety.
The Counties and States destined to be more adversely affected from a prolonged military conflict will lead with the threats of sanctions.
J Regime position is wait and encounter.
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Ego Sum Lux Mundi
Vladimir Putin warns the neocons to stop destabilizing nations:
It merely became a lot more safety to ally with Russia and People's republic of china than to remain unaligned. Specially since China is fully onboard with the anti-neocon arroyo.
And, of course, there is nothing more dangerously unstable than to be an ally of the declining majestic ability, the so-called 'Us'.
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Desert Tortoise
The US was the just state in modern times to defeat the Japanese. Nihon beat Russia, Cathay, Korea, and early in WWII defeated British, French and Dutch forces soundly running them out of their colonies in east Asia. The Brits surrendered Singapore without a fight even though they outnumbered the attacking Japanese force. Only after Pearl Harbor the Japanese never won once again. It was just a long grind chipping away at their empire until U.s.a. and other Allied forces fresh off defeating Hitler were knocking on the door in Japan itself.
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Temyong
The world doesn't take a world leader when the 45th left so the mice are out to play. Russian federation is literally telling NATO to commit $u!
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gintonic
The United states of america does not recognize Assad as the legimate ruler of Syria".
What a super user-friendly line of thinking....and so substantially United states of america can say they don't recognize land XYZ government and transport the military in on a request from an alternate "legitimate representative regime " of their making. Of course Russia or anyone else is absolutely non allowed to exercise the same thing. Hypocrisy much?
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nukkuheddo
The Russian Embassador to Japan said that Nihon imposing sanctions would be "counter-productive" - sort of dangling a carrot that the northern island outcome may maybe be resolved in a non-counter-productive environment - forget information technology - Russian federation is never gonna requite upwardly those islands. How about this? - if Russian invades the Ukraine - Japan take back the islands by strength - Russia has full-bodied forces on the border of the Ukraine - Russia would not expect information technology (likely) - Japan has excellent military capabilities and would probable take the islands very quickly - Article nine would not exist an issue - it's Japan. There is no peace treaty betwixt Japan and Russia - Information technology would also ship a message about Japanese resolve to the Americans, The Chinese, the bad-hair-cut-guy in Northward. Korea...could Russia retaliate? - sure...but then the US would be directly involved (and likely NATO) and the Russian forces involved in the invasion of the Ukraine would suddenly have a far bigger trouble on their hands - Hitler had a war on 2 fronts - that didn't work out - I would even likely say that Russia's own military might over-throw Putin - I call back Russian federation and Prc would be taken completely off-guard...
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Desert Tortoise
Nope. The U.s.a. position is that the people of Syria ought to cull their leadership through competitive elections and not have them jammed downward their throats by brute force as they have been since Syria's independence. This is why the The states maintains that the Assad government is non the legitimate government of Syria.
United states of america forces are not in Syria to install a government at that place. The states forces are simply in Syria, along with UK and other forces, to fight Daesh. Usa and other centrolineal nations have been very careful not to engage Syrian, Russian, Iranian or Hezbollah forces there in support of Assad. They have confined themselves to attacking Daesh targets. There was a single case of Russian mercenaries and Syrian government forces attacking a Us Army outpost defending a Kurdish run gas plant. That attack didn't plow out very well for the Syrians and especially for the Russian mercenaries who suffered heavy losses without inflicting any losses on the Us side. That was almost four years agone and there accept been no repeats.
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Desert Tortoise
@nukkuheddo, the JSDF has no power to mount an amphibious assail in the Kuriles and if Nippon did so on its own the Us would exist nether no obligation to defend Japan from the Russian counter attack. The mutual defense treaty between the US and Nippon does not oblige either nation to come to the others help if one of the signatories initiates a state of war. It is strictly an alliance of mutual defense where if ane party is attacked the other is obliged to come to their aid.
I empathise what you lot are saying. If the United states of america was maybe less timid (more stupid ?) it would commit to the use of mass air power to assist Ukrainian forces defending against a Russian assail (peradventure risking total war with Russia). Merely the US could very much mountain an amphibious set on on the Kuriles if Russia attacked Ukraine and the Russians with much of their army and air power committed to the Ukraine wouldn't accept much ability to defend against such an assault other than to launch a nuclear set on on the Usa. You lot see where this sort of affair goes. This sort of stuff is for fanboi fantasies. The all-time thing Japan can practice is to fully participate in whatever sanctions imposed on Russia by the EU and US.
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Peter Neil
There are fifty dictatorships in the world (19 in Sub-Saharan Africa, 12 in the Middle Due east and North Africa, eight in Asia-Pacific, seven in Eurasia, 3 in Americas and ane in Europe).
The US better get going and start sending troops to them. Hey, start by sending troops to Prc and encounter how that goes,
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nukkuheddo
@Desert Tortoise...I see your point about if Japan attacks the bilateral agreement doen't hold...fair enough...you know more nigh information technology than I do...
regarding JSDF capability...I took a boat tour around Kure near Hiroshima a couple years ago...I was blown abroad...I take photos somewhere...a apartment height (guess'northward beingness re-fitted for F-35'due south...two big ships with massive dorsum doors for launching hover-crafts...couple Aegis cruisers...dunno...viii or so subs...various other types of state of war-ships...just one port...guess'n an island nation like Japan would prioritize amphibious capability or? I have no military machine backgound other than historical interest...
But I exercise get your point & I enjoy your posts...
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Desert Tortoise
The U.s.a. doesn't have forces in Syria to affect the upshot of their civil war. They are not there to overthrow a dictator as you posit. The The states has forces on both sides of the Syria / Iraq border to defeat Daesh and end a terrorist grouping from getting established in Syria and Iraq as they were briefly when they had a "caliphate" stretching from Mosul and Kirkuk across to northern Syria. The genocide of the Yazidis was what pulled the U.s. in. I guess you object to that too?
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Desert Tortoise
I have sailed in a JMSDF germination. Our transport was provided to the Japanese formation every bit their logistics transport. They are 1 of the all-time equipped navies in the globe. Their submarines and destroyers are the best of their kind in the world. We always considered a Japanese diesel sub the next best affair to a U.s. or British nuclear sub, and better in some nearly ways than most other nation's nuclear subs. I have been on ships of many navies and Nihon'south are as as good as those of the US Navy, and better than the RN (oh my !).
But, due to regional sensitivities, memories of Japanese conquests in WWII, JSDF lacks specific capabilities it would need to be able to deploy away from their home bases. The JASDF has their support equipment built into hardstands on their flight lines. They do non take the portable support equipment the USAF has that tin be loaded into an aeroplane and taken to an overseas base of operations. They don't have the equipment to gear up upward expeditionary air bases (think Marsden matting runways, portable air traffic control towers and portable instrument approach equipment). The JASDF doesn't have large numbers of heavy transport aircraft necessary for big troop movements. The C-2 is good but there aren't that many of them.
The JMSDF doesn't have a land assault missile of whatsoever kind. They can bang abroad with a deck gun simply that puts the ship much as well close to enemy cruise missile batteries ashore. Only one of those big flattops is currently equipped to carry the F-35B (they were built every bit "Helicopter Destroyers" to avert calling them an aircraft carrier, and simply carried helos). They accept very few logistics ships necessary to support operations far from domicile bases and until this year no organic air encompass so the fleet is tied to the home islands or deploying with United states of america forces. At that place are only 3 Osumi Class landing ships you saw with docking wells for landing craft. Each carries 330 troops, so all three can acquit about a battalion. Not much if you are making an opposed landing. They are proficient for reinforcing small islands Japan already controls just not much for taking somebody else'southward islands. What the JMSDF is really good at is anti submarine warfare. Probably only the Usa Navy has improve ASW resources than the JMSDF.
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nukkuheddo
@Desert Tortoise - I guess you are a mikitary consultant or US war machine?
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blue in green
Watching with "interest" has been officially amended especially for the Biden assistants:
Watching with "grave business organization".
LOL.
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Peter14
The ex Soviet states had decades with Russian federation and accept decided that they want to be with EU and NATO. It is as much Russia'due south mistake for not belongings onto "friends" equally information technology is Western Europe for being a more desirable partner. No Nuclear missiles are getting closer to Russia. They remain in storage on US bases and accept not moved an inch.
Then Russia has missed the gunkhole as two bordering nations accept already joined NATO and wow no ten'southward of thousands of additional troops on Russia's edge. But for some unexplained reason they believe the Ukraine will be different?
Russia's real reason is that with its theft of Ukraine territory, once Ukraine joins NATO it volition demand Crimea back and that worries the hell out of Putin. Facing off against a weaker nation in Ukraine is one affair but a united 30 nation NATO is entirely another.
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Peter14
Translates to we will not allow commonwealth or the will of the bulk to topple Russian aligned governments.
Bring together the Despot or the Despot or we will exist aroused at y'all and y'all will pay the price for your freedom from oppression.
A meaningless statement from the Autocrat with nada understanding of fairness or justice. Do as he says, not equally he does. He is special and allowed to do what you are not.
Well that always depends on whom is president at the time. Under Biden the US is much more than predictable and stable than the previous leader. Just no more dangerous than adjustment with China or Russia which always also have their ain demands on "friends".
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ian
Seems Putin is pressuring US and allies to see what they're really capable of
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ian
Non a skilful await that United states of america looked to Nihon and Japan just shrugged off
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snowymountainhell
But to understand your position @zichi 8:58pm: Are you, one this occasion, advocating 'U.Southward. intervention as a reason to help protect the 'European' (a general term, including the U.One thousand., mail Brexit) and Japan'southward markets and interests?
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Desert Tortoise
Would you prefer the U.s. remained silent and Russia attacked a sovereign nation? Yeah information technology'due south far away.....now...... just if the history leading up to WWII is valid the world is improve off challenging and stopping aggressors like Russia and Prc early earlier they accept a lot of other people's territory. How different the earth might have been if the Europeans had stood together and prevented Hitler from taking Czechoslovakia, Austria and Poland. How different the world would have been had the US had the means to challenge Japan in Cathay before they could sweep through the rest of Asia. No instead the many not involved nations looked away and earlier you knew information technology Hitler was in France, Russia and North Africa and Nihon was sweeping through Singapore on their way into Burma. All those non-involved nations who looked way found themselves existence attacked. That is why the United states of america forward deploys its military and tries to counter territorial aggressions early earlier they snowball into a costly and preventable state of war.
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FizzBit
Oh that's it, I forgot about that. Total Bingo on that ane! Right on man! So glad y'all're exposing the truth when every unmarried MSM and Washington DC investigation couldn't find anything.
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OssanAmerica
The Ukraine has a right to make up one's mind it'due south own hereafter. If the Ukranian people wish to bring together NATO why should Russia exist allowed to dictate what another sovereign land can or cannot exercise?
If Japan thinks that past refusing to join the West in sanctioning Russia they will get some reciprocal good will in return from Russia every bit regards the disputed 4 islands or a Peace Treaty, they are fooling themselves. Russian federation'south position will be the aforementioned whether Japan joins the sanctions or not.
Information technology would be infinitely smarter for Japan to amend the first paragraph of Article nine to allow the employ of military forcefulness to settle territorial disputes, and be prepared to have dorsum the iv stolen islands in example a US-Russian state of war goes hot. In such a case the United states of america would fully support Japan.
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rcch
Yes, Biden shouldn't elevate Nihon into this mess but...
The US could've invaded Japan but chose not to. " It would've been the end of Japan ", they said. That gives the Usa a huge amount of political power over Japan ( and they accustomed this reality ). If nosotros call up about it, the Japanese really swallowed their pride.
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PTownsend
Trump's fractals seem to retrieve along the lines of criminal gangs similar to the the way their mob boss does.
Speaking of protection racket, what are/were Russian forces doing in Kazakhstan, Syria and Libya.
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Tomi
Biden wants to sell gas to Europe and raise his popularity at the same time at home.
But why drag with himself downwardly Japan?
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Seth G
Putin controls the valves of energy, he is always one step ahead of the US. If United states isn't agape of cripple Europe or even the global economy, neither is Putin. He has zip to lose anyway, it's not similar Russia is an industrial or trade powerhouse or anything. So terminate rattling those toothless sanctions
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ian
I haven't heard annihilation yet virtually sanctions US will impose.
Maybe they should show anybody first what it is they intend to do
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OssanAmerica
The United states does not recognize Assad as the legimate ruler of Syrian arab republic.
"The Syrian Opposition Coalition is now inclusive enough, is reflective and representative plenty of the Syrian population that we consider them the legitimate representative of the Syrian peoplein opposition to the Assad regime." U.s.a. Secretary of State.
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Peter14
Dont worry about the US, both United mexican states and Canada would object to that.
Maybe the US should enquire Estonia and Latvia to allow it to base nukes there on Russia's border. Both are NATO members. A couple of big US bases in that location would get nicely. No need to base them in Ukraine at all.
The UN is unfortunately unable to function while five dissimilar nations have veto powers in the UN security quango. Time for a new earth trunk with no veto's.
Except it is Putin starting a war.
Russia would dear for the earth to accept no action if it invades Ukraine. The world must show Russia the mistake of invasion by unified sanctions from the free world including Japan, in the event that Russia does invade Ukraine. If in that location is no invasion then Russian federation need not fear any new sanctions.
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voiceofokinawa
Tell anyone that Japan's constitution prohibits the nation to wage state of war to solve international disputes. And so Nippon cannot go to war to help Ukraine.
Article 9 of the constitution goes as follows:
"Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes.
In lodge to accomplish the aim of the preceding paragraph, land, sea, and air forces, as well every bit other war potential, will never be maintained. the right of belligerency of the state will not exist recognized."
This is indeed a beautiful and sublime ideal for all nations to emulate.
Correct-winger politicians, spearheaded by the late Shintaro Ishihara likewise equally the belatedly erstwhile Prime Minister Hiroyasu Nakasone, want the constitution to be scrapped or revised, proverb Japan must defend itself from threats abroad. Merely it must exist the U.Due south. side, more than than anyone else, that want Japan to revise the constitution so that it could fight a foreign war along with information technology.
Right-winger politicians should talk over what to exercise about this superfluous U.S. military presence offset before they ever mention the constitutional revision.
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PTownsend
Not surprisingly the MSM is used as evidence, in this case would that be 'proof'.
I've never read anywhere that investigations couldn't find anything'. Could information technology be one time again 'truth' was lacking in the above post, or that the putative prove used came from what some telephone call the 'real media'. if the and so-called 'real media was used to provide prove, a link would be helpful. Perhaps the show could have come up from a source claiming conflicting reptiles put chips in vaccines, and the vaccines magnetize people thereby making subcontract animal deworming medications superior to big-pharma's jabs.
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itsonlyrocknroll
President George W. Bush and United kingdom of great britain and northern ireland Prime Minister Tony Blair war in Iraq, the the devastating War in Afghanistan should accept signaled that invasion and the subsequent devastating loss of light to hundreds of thousands of innocent families, civilians would prompt the global customs to wake upwards and take listen.
No, President Putin is hell aptitude on a course of activeness that could ultimately make both wars pale into insignificance.
J Government should phone call for caution, and as a nation devoted peace, though some politicians yearn for a more revisionist agenda, suggest a moment of reflection.
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Peter14
Nippon is complimentary to accept what e'er actions it deems advisable, whether suggested by an marry or not.
But having hopes of progress on the return of 4 islands Russia now considers their own being tied to any other issue is not logical. Russia will never ever return those four islands regardless of Japanese sanctions against Russia should information technology invade a sovereign Ukraine. Suggesting otherwise is unrealistic.
Russia volition go along the Crimea with the same determination to concord what it has taken off someone else as it does with the Northern Territories.
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lincolnman
A a perfect example of "real-politic" and the feckless nature of the LDP and most of Nippon's governments...
Ane of the first things Japan's leaders request of a new US President or Ambassador is that they say openly that Art 5 of the US-Nippon Security Treaty applies to the Senkakus - which means if Communist china invades, the US considers information technology an attack on Japan and volition come up to Japan's defence...
Information technology doesn't matter how many times this has been said in the by, the Japanese government always begs for it to be said again and once again...
Yet hither nosotros take Nihon being requested not to provide forces, just to only assist with economic sanctions against Russian federation if it invades Ukraine...and they stall, worried it offend Russia and it'southward efforts to regain command of the northern territories...
It contributes to the view by other countries, especially those hither in Asia, that Japan's foreign policy is weak and timid - and renews questions in the US as to how reliable a security partner Nihon is....
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OssanAmerica
The US has less than 1000 troops in Republic of iraq and Syrian arab republic each at the request of the respective governments.
Russia has 100,000 troops ready to invade the Ukraine which does not want to be invaded.
Can you understand the deviation?
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PTownsend
Sanctions and embargoes are acts of state of war.
"sanctions and embargoes are acts of war, co-ordinate to which source?
I have heard 'blockades' might be considered acts of state of war.
https://guide-humanitarian-law.org/content/commodity/3/blockade/
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Yrral
Commanteer,people do not accept responsibility for their country, nosotros want to extract penalisation for Putin aiding Trump, by the mode Russia dispatched nuclear bomber, as flecked jester of weakness Google Russian Nuclear Bombers Belarus
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